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Leadership Without
Losing Your Soul

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Leadership Development that Works with Jennifer Mackin

by | Sep 10, 2021 | Podcast, Winning Well

Leadership development is one of the most important investments you can make in your organization’s success. Unfortunately, there are many ways to do it poorly. The results are lost time, money, credibility—and worst of all, poorly trained leaders. In this episode, Jennifer Mackin, author of Leaders Deserve Better, gives you the roadmap to effective leadership development. There are a handful of principles you can use right now to build a better leadership development strategy (and partner effectively with leadership development experts who can help transform your business).

Leadership Development that Works

2:53 – Traditional leadership development doesn’t work. How Jennifer recognized this and why she wrote Leaders Deserve Better.

4:54 – What we mean by strategies that “works” – simply put, it means leaders are ready.

7:09 – The paradox of training customer-facing roles, but leaving training until after people have these roles (if even then).

11:12 – Why leadership hasn’t changed, but training needs to evolve.

13:36 – The need for development to be leader-led. You can’t outsource your leadership training. It’s the responsibility of every leader in your organization.

17:30 – How the senior leadership team can get started with leader-led training.

19:44 – How your people strategy must flow from and be visibly connected to your core business strategy.

22:16 – Clarifying that “leader-led” doesn’t mean that every leader is a trainer. It means responsibility and ensuring people are growing and have a development plan.

28:10 – Why people development is a leader’s job, and the benefits to overall team performance and time management when you do it well.

30:41 – Effective leadership development is practical and applied to day-to-day work.

34:51 – Next we discuss how the most effective leaders take responsibility for their own development.

38:46 – How you can get started and take practical next steps to build a strategy that works.

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David Dye helps human-centered leaders find clarity in uncertainty, drive innovation, and achieve breakthrough results.  He’s the President of Let’s Grow Leaders, an international leadership development and training firm known for practical tools and leadership development programs that stick. He’s the award-winning authors of four books including Courageous Cultures: How to Build Teams of Micro-Innovators, Problem Solvers, and Customer Advocates and Winning Well: A Manager’s Guide to Getting Results-Without Losing Your Soul and hosts the popular Leadership without Losing Your Soul podcast. David is a former executive and elected official. David and his wife and business partner, Karin Hurt, are committed to their philanthropic initiative, Winning Wells – building clean water wells for the people of Cambodia.


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