Episode 264: In this episode of the Leadership Without Losing Your Soul Podcast, you’ll dive into the importance of brave conversations at work and tackling those tough conversations head-on. Have you ever wondered how to make those difficult chats a little easier? Ed Evarts joins us to share his insights and experiences navigating these tricky waters.
You’ll learn about the key elements that can make a big difference. Some of those include being helpful, practicing regularly, staying present in the moment, focusing on future outcomes, and maintaining flexibility. Plus, don’t miss out on Ed’s book, “The Bravery Trick: Four Easy Ways to Say Hard Things,” which is packed with practical tips and is available now. Tune in to get inspired and become more courageous in your leadership journey!
How to Have Brave Conversations with Ed Evarts
00:00 – Show Introduction and Importance of Brave Conversations
David Dye emphasizes the significance of brave conversations at work, highlighting how well-received feedback can create a culture of openness and improvement.
00:23 – Welcome and Episode Overview
David welcomes you to Leadership without Losing Your Soul, promising practical strategies for brave conversations. David introduces returning guest Ed Evarts.
01:36 – Ed Everats’ Early Leadership Experiences
Ed shares his early leadership memories influenced by his father, stressing the importance of observational skills and continuous improvement.
02:58 – The Connection Between Observational Skills and Brave Conversations
David and Ed discuss how early experiences of observing and improving processes connect to the need for bravery in workplace conversations.
03:53 – Common Areas Where Bravery is Needed at Work
Ed identifies two types of bravery: planned and in-the-moment, explaining why people often miss opportunities to be brave in meetings and feedback situations.
Building a Culture of Bravery: Different Ways to Say Hard Things
04:42 – Examples of Missed Opportunities for Bravery at Work
Ed gives examples of people avoiding speaking up in meetings or giving feedback. This leads to regrets about not being brave when it matters.
05:39 – The Goal of Helpfulness in Brave Conversations
Emphasizing that bravery should always aim to help; Ed outlines the importance of approaching conversations with a mindset of helpfulness and dignity.
06:36 – Overcoming the Fear of Public Speaking
David shares how focusing on being helpful rather than perfect can alleviate the fear of public speaking.
07:25 – Flipping the Script on Difficult Conversations
Ed advises flipping the script to focus on the benefits of brave conversations rather than the reasons to avoid them, enhancing the likelihood of successful outcomes.
08:41 – The Value of Practice in Brave Conversations
Ed explains how preparing and rehearsing conversations can make you more confident and effective in being brave at work.
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