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Leadership Without
Losing Your Soul

Podcast with David Dye

Make It, Don’t Fake It with Sabrina Horn

by | Nov 19, 2021 | Podcast, Winning Well |

It’s a cliche you’ve undoubtedly heard more than once: Fake it until you make it. The problem is that the pressure to succeed can drive leaders to exaggerate their strengths, minimize weaknesses, bend the truth, and sacrifice the very authenticity that would help them succeed. In this episode, former Silicon Valley communications CEO Sabrina Horn gives you the tools to lead with integrity, navigate the challenges that compromise authenticity, and transform your influence by leading from the truth.

Make It, Don’t Fake It

2:30 – A nerve-wracking example of trying to fake it that decidedly did not result in a “make it” ending.

6:50 – When “fake it until you make it” is legitimate and helpful advice.

10:48 – The one criterion you can use to know when you’ve crossed into unhealthy and destructive faking it.

11:40 – The Make It Happen Box and how to use it to manage overwhelm and multiple leadership pressures.

16:21 – Different kinds of lies and integrity compromises that can compromise leaders’ authenticity, influence, and results.

17:17 – The benefit of facing facts and getting the truth out there rather than engaging in “spin.”

19:06 – Why leaders embrace problems

20:39 – Nobody is perfect and how to find the values and take responsibility for your leadership.

24:03 – Why Sabrina has so much passion for leading with integrity.

31:07 – How effective leaders can use PR for their organization, brand, or team from a place of integrity. How to find the truth that people need to know. What is uniquely yours?

33:57 – Why honesty is a great marketing strategy.

36:58 – Advice for women (and men) in confronting gender discrimination and bias.

38:54 – Three steps you can take now to reestablish your integrity and build a foundation of authenticity for your influence.

41:49 – Why great leaders don’t have all the answers, and what they do instead to make it, not fake it.

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David Dye helps human-centered leaders find clarity in uncertainty, drive innovation, and achieve breakthrough results.  He’s the President of Let’s Grow Leaders, an international leadership development and training firm known for practical tools and leadership development programs that stick. He’s the award-winning authors of four books including Courageous Cultures: How to Build Teams of Micro-Innovators, Problem Solvers, and Customer Advocates and Winning Well: A Manager’s Guide to Getting Results-Without Losing Your Soul and hosts the popular Leadership without Losing Your Soul podcast. David is a former executive and elected official. David and his wife and business partner, Karin Hurt, are committed to their philanthropic initiative, Winning Wells – building clean water wells for the people of Cambodia.


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